Agree, 100% here. Old rock bands always suck in their later years. I saw CSN a few years ago, and they should have hung it up a few years prior. Amazingly Dasvid Crosby, however, (then sober) still has that angelic voice. Stills' voice was gone. Graham struggled. Stills could still play amazing guitar. But old bands usually are awful. And yes, Ringo was a superb drummer. Highly underrated.